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AFTER RAPTURE PET CARE (Smile)
Very few people will survive the Great Tribulation. After the Rapture, the only way out is martyrdom. It will then be merely a choice of how you want to die: As a martyr going to Heaven, or a follower of antichrist going through the Book of Revelation judgments. Judgments of a righteous God on a rebellious population. The Antichrist will turn on Theosophy, Interfaith, Bahai and Freemasonry as noted in Revelation 17, as he only used them (religious Babylon) to that point to get to power. But now he doesn't want to share power with anyone. Then in Revelation 18 commercial Babylon is destroyed.
Christians more concerned about pets than people may not be going up. "As it was in the days of Noah..." and only eight were spared. Very few. Something to think about. Meanwhile, the atheist rapture pet service remains a part of the spirit of the age because, with the pet owners gone, there will be no accountability. So what else is new....
Very few people will survive the Great Tribulation. After the Rapture, the only way out is martyrdom. It will then be merely a choice of how you want to die: As a martyr going to Heaven, or a follower of antichrist going through the Book of Revelation judgments. Judgments of a righteous God on a rebellious population. The Antichrist will turn on Theosophy, Interfaith, Bahai and Freemasonry as noted in Revelation 17, as he only used them (religious Babylon) to that point to get to power. But now he doesn't want to share power with anyone. Then in Revelation 18 commercial Babylon is destroyed.
Christians more concerned about pets than people may not be going up. "As it was in the days of Noah..." and only eight were spared. Very few. Something to think about. Meanwhile, the atheist rapture pet service remains a part of the spirit of the age because, with the pet owners gone, there will be no accountability. So what else is new....
posted by: Steve Volk on Tue, 10/27 06:22 PM EDT
RAPTURE COMFORTS AND DANGERS
Lolly is not a theologian. The Rapture is in the Latin Vulgate. The Latin Vulgate was translated into English in 1586, 25 years before the KJV. Freemasonry started the propaganda that Jesuits created the Rapture in 1850 but this is not true. The great supporter of Israel, Dr. David Allen Lewis - who recently has had a museum commemorated to him in Jerusalem, which includes some things I did with him - was a firm believer in the Rapture, speaking many times and selling many books on it.
The Rapture is the Blessed Hope and with it are attendant comforts and dangers. Its comforts include allowing us to rise above the intensifying mayhem to see the other side. Its imminence allows one to keep one's life spiritually ready. Meanwhile, the dangers of the Rapture include passivity, allowing one to "slide into the Kingdom" when there is actually MORE work every Christian is predestined and anointed for before it occurs. The key word is "balance." Not to get stressed, cynical or sarcastic; and to keep the peace that passes understanding.
Footnote: While there are many things I appreciate about the KJV, occultist Francis Bacon was given the final manuscript for the entire year of 1612 to edit. Germans believe the KJV is an occult book and it could be for this reason. I have found the Douay-Rheims (English translation of Latin Vulgate) to be very accurate... but just try and find one. TAN Books still sells them...
Lolly is not a theologian. The Rapture is in the Latin Vulgate. The Latin Vulgate was translated into English in 1586, 25 years before the KJV. Freemasonry started the propaganda that Jesuits created the Rapture in 1850 but this is not true. The great supporter of Israel, Dr. David Allen Lewis - who recently has had a museum commemorated to him in Jerusalem, which includes some things I did with him - was a firm believer in the Rapture, speaking many times and selling many books on it.
The Rapture is the Blessed Hope and with it are attendant comforts and dangers. Its comforts include allowing us to rise above the intensifying mayhem to see the other side. Its imminence allows one to keep one's life spiritually ready. Meanwhile, the dangers of the Rapture include passivity, allowing one to "slide into the Kingdom" when there is actually MORE work every Christian is predestined and anointed for before it occurs. The key word is "balance." Not to get stressed, cynical or sarcastic; and to keep the peace that passes understanding.
Footnote: While there are many things I appreciate about the KJV, occultist Francis Bacon was given the final manuscript for the entire year of 1612 to edit. Germans believe the KJV is an occult book and it could be for this reason. I have found the Douay-Rheims (English translation of Latin Vulgate) to be very accurate... but just try and find one. TAN Books still sells them...
posted by: Steve Volk on Wed, 10/28 09:16 AM EDT
UNWITTINGLY ANTISEMITIC...
Lolly is being unwittingly theologically antisemitic in denying the Rapture. The error comes with the "final trumpet" interpretation. The common theological error is to believe the final trumpet is the last of the seven trumpet judgments. Not true.
The final trump is very Jewish. A young Jewish man would propose to a potential bride and, if she accepted, he would sound the first trump (on the shofar). He would then go away and prepare a home, under his father's guidance, for His Bride. The preparation period was usually a year or so. When completed, he would then sound the final trump (also called the second trump) to get his Bride, who would be waiting for him, not knowing the day or the hour. She always had to be ready.
Just like the seven-branched candlestick in the Book of Revelation, the menorah, the Rapture is also thoroughly Jewish, based on the "final trump" of the Bridegroom coming for His Bride. A Blessed event.
To deny this is to be theologically antisemitic, which Lolly is. I recommend Lolly investigate the real Jewish roots of the Rapture...
Lolly is being unwittingly theologically antisemitic in denying the Rapture. The error comes with the "final trumpet" interpretation. The common theological error is to believe the final trumpet is the last of the seven trumpet judgments. Not true.
The final trump is very Jewish. A young Jewish man would propose to a potential bride and, if she accepted, he would sound the first trump (on the shofar). He would then go away and prepare a home, under his father's guidance, for His Bride. The preparation period was usually a year or so. When completed, he would then sound the final trump (also called the second trump) to get his Bride, who would be waiting for him, not knowing the day or the hour. She always had to be ready.
Just like the seven-branched candlestick in the Book of Revelation, the menorah, the Rapture is also thoroughly Jewish, based on the "final trump" of the Bridegroom coming for His Bride. A Blessed event.
To deny this is to be theologically antisemitic, which Lolly is. I recommend Lolly investigate the real Jewish roots of the Rapture...
posted by: Steve Volk on Wed, 10/28 09:35 AM EDT
Steve: Re:the word "anti-semite". "Antisemite" is a control word, used to control and manipulate people, religions and governments. It is used to micromanage populations. It is time the people stopped being afraid of this word. Arabs are also semites. So Israel is "antisemite" against the Arabs and the Arabs are "antisemite" toward Israel. So let's drop the word already. Only G-d is holy. Semites are not G-d and the Bible commands not to put other "gods" before Him.
Response to Lolly
I didn't coin the term. Dr. David Allen Lewis, friend of Menachem Begin and Netanyahu, widely published the terms "theological antisemitism" - such as denying the Jewish roots of the Rapture -and "antisemitic Jews," those Jews in opposition to God's plan for the Jews. You'll have to take it up with Dr. Lewis when you get to Heaven...
I didn't coin the term. Dr. David Allen Lewis, friend of Menachem Begin and Netanyahu, widely published the terms "theological antisemitism" - such as denying the Jewish roots of the Rapture -and "antisemitic Jews," those Jews in opposition to God's plan for the Jews. You'll have to take it up with Dr. Lewis when you get to Heaven...
posted by: Steve Volk on Thu, 10/29 08:58 PM EDT
Re: "antisemetic Jews". Actually there is no such thing. That would be a Jew against himself. Jews have as much right to free speech as anybody else. So if one Jew does not agree with other Jews, he should have those free speech rights especially if he is in the minority. God gives us free will. God does not zap us if we sin. The word "antisemetic Jew" is again a control word or mechanism. This Mr Lewis sounds like he is proficient in the psychology of controlling people with his writings and ideas. The rest of us have to wake up to not allow people to manipulate us with their writings into a corner where the majority of us will find we have lost our free speech rights.
ANTISEMITIC JEWS:
FOR EXAMPLE...
* Dathan was a Jew who tried to keep the people from crossing the Red Sea with Moses. God had their best interests at heart but Dathan did not. Dathan was an anti-semitic Jew.
* Jews with belief systems and world views denying the presence of the literal 144,000 Jews in the Book of Revelation - these are anti-semitic Jews.
* Nationalist Begin told internationalist Kissinger, "You are not the first Jew who thought he was doing right for our country, when he was not." Begin would have considered Kissinger an antisemitic Jew.
* The communist Jews in Germany when Hitler was in power caused antisemitism to fall on all non-communist Jews; causing Hitler to destroy all Jews in Germany, thinking in the process he would destroy all the communist ones.
Yes, there are anti-Semitic Jews....
FOR EXAMPLE...
* Dathan was a Jew who tried to keep the people from crossing the Red Sea with Moses. God had their best interests at heart but Dathan did not. Dathan was an anti-semitic Jew.
* Jews with belief systems and world views denying the presence of the literal 144,000 Jews in the Book of Revelation - these are anti-semitic Jews.
* Nationalist Begin told internationalist Kissinger, "You are not the first Jew who thought he was doing right for our country, when he was not." Begin would have considered Kissinger an antisemitic Jew.
* The communist Jews in Germany when Hitler was in power caused antisemitism to fall on all non-communist Jews; causing Hitler to destroy all Jews in Germany, thinking in the process he would destroy all the communist ones.
Yes, there are anti-Semitic Jews....
posted by: Steve Volk on Sat, 10/31 01:35 PM EDT
Steve; "antisemetic or "antisemite" are VERY DANGEROUS words. The antichrists are using these words to control people. Recently the hate crimes bill was passed. If being "antisemite" is part of it, once the department of justice's hate crimes unit is up and running, "self hating Jews", such as leaders of the Israeli peace movement and Haaretz and Jerusalem Post journalists, can expect to be indicted for anti-Semetic hate crimes in U.S. courts. Also, you your self are in danger of being labeled a self-hating Jew because you are a Christian. Non-Jews are also in danger. Also, parts of the New Testament can be considered "anti-semetic". Jesus Christ would be considered a self-hating Jew under this nonsense because he spoke out against the Pharisees. The religion of Judaism is descended from the religion of the Pharisees. See The International Jewish Encyclopedia under Pharisees and Sadducees. There it says: "..Phariseeism ...was developed by the rabbis into the normative tradition of Judaism." Would not non-communist Jews be considered self-hating Jews, by the communist Jews, because Marxism was written up by Karl Marx who was a racial Jew descended from a long line of Rabbis? So thereby according to that line of thinking, we all have to become communists so that we will not be anti-semetic against Karl Marx. Just wonderful! Could you please go back to the drawing board. Thank you.
SELF-HATING JEWS
OR LEFTIST SELF-LOVING AND RACE-HATING JEWS...
Anti-semitism refers to an attitude towards a race in general. The examples I gave above were Jews who had anti-semitic attitudes toward the race. Shickelgruber was even considered part Jewish. Let's examine what you wrote:
* "Once the department of justice's hate crimes unit is up and running, " Who do you think will be running this unit? I bet you $100 it will turn out to be anti-Semitic Jews. New Deal history is repeating itself more than ever. In Germany and to a lesser extent the US, it was the Marxist internationalist Jews which caused the public - who tends to be intellectually slothful - to go after all Jews, thinking all Jews internationalist. It wasn't the Christians who condoned this attitude. It was the will of a minority of Marxist Jewish internationalists - then and possibly now - conditioning the public to think this way.
* "The antichrists are using these words to control people." Dr. David Allen Lewis was a very Godly man and a brilliant scholar and was in no way an antichrist, standing up for Israel in Senate committees. A museum in Jerusalem is a memorial to him. He saw the antisemitic Jewish problem very easily from a Biblical base. Look at Jabotinsky, for example. He died in the 1940s but the leftist Jews wouldn't even let his body be buried there till 1964. They were anti-Semitic Jews.
* "Leaders of the Israeli peace movement and Haaretz and Jerusalem Post journalists, can expect to be indicted for anti-Semitic hate crimes in U.S. courts." You've gotten off track. Under Obama's gun control laws, scripted by leftist Chicago buddy Rahm Emanuel, Jews like Rabbi Rambo and Aaron Zehlman will be "guilty of hate crimes" if they defend themselves against activists in the growing Moslem population. Do you think 2 million Muslims sent over here are going to assimilate in under 4 years? Their attitudes in Israel will be the same when Rahm Emanuel brings them here (and this is being an anti-semitic Jew, bringing two million Muslims or more from the Middle East, to the USA where millions of Jews are).
I could go on and on. You keep saying "self-hating Jew." But we're referring to what turns out to be, in the final analysis, "race-hating Jews." Perhaps only a few like Israel supporter Dr. Lewis could fully appreciate this. By his actions, thinking it best for the Jews to return to slavery, Dathan was, in the final analysis, an anti-semitic Jew. It was because he loved his leftist self too much - not hated it - that he became an anti-semitic Jew.
* "Christ would be considered a self-hating Jew under this nonsense because he spoke out against the Pharisees." On the contrary, in the final analysis, the Pharisees were anti-Semitic Jews because they spoke out against the King of the Jews and the Lion of the Tribe of Judah. Are you starting to get the meaning? Anything intrinsically against God, anything for atheism -like internationalism today which for its own manipulations backs all the sects and cults and heresies and New Age nonsense and world religions - when orchestrated by a severe minority of leftist Jews, shows in the final analysis antisemitic Jews. You basically come from the premise that there are no absolutes; that leftist Jewry is just as good for Jews, or better, than other alternatives. But Begin firmly said just the opposite to Kissinger: "You are not the first Jew who thought he was doing right for our country, when he was not!"
The bottom line: Not anti-semitism but anti-godless internationalism. Those who happen to be Jews like Barney Frank who chose the latter will prove, as history shows time and again, to be anti-semitic Jews... just as the communist Jews let it fall on all Jews, for the actions of a small minority, in the Third Reich.
OR LEFTIST SELF-LOVING AND RACE-HATING JEWS...
Anti-semitism refers to an attitude towards a race in general. The examples I gave above were Jews who had anti-semitic attitudes toward the race. Shickelgruber was even considered part Jewish. Let's examine what you wrote:
* "Once the department of justice's hate crimes unit is up and running, " Who do you think will be running this unit? I bet you $100 it will turn out to be anti-Semitic Jews. New Deal history is repeating itself more than ever. In Germany and to a lesser extent the US, it was the Marxist internationalist Jews which caused the public - who tends to be intellectually slothful - to go after all Jews, thinking all Jews internationalist. It wasn't the Christians who condoned this attitude. It was the will of a minority of Marxist Jewish internationalists - then and possibly now - conditioning the public to think this way.
* "The antichrists are using these words to control people." Dr. David Allen Lewis was a very Godly man and a brilliant scholar and was in no way an antichrist, standing up for Israel in Senate committees. A museum in Jerusalem is a memorial to him. He saw the antisemitic Jewish problem very easily from a Biblical base. Look at Jabotinsky, for example. He died in the 1940s but the leftist Jews wouldn't even let his body be buried there till 1964. They were anti-Semitic Jews.
* "Leaders of the Israeli peace movement and Haaretz and Jerusalem Post journalists, can expect to be indicted for anti-Semitic hate crimes in U.S. courts." You've gotten off track. Under Obama's gun control laws, scripted by leftist Chicago buddy Rahm Emanuel, Jews like Rabbi Rambo and Aaron Zehlman will be "guilty of hate crimes" if they defend themselves against activists in the growing Moslem population. Do you think 2 million Muslims sent over here are going to assimilate in under 4 years? Their attitudes in Israel will be the same when Rahm Emanuel brings them here (and this is being an anti-semitic Jew, bringing two million Muslims or more from the Middle East, to the USA where millions of Jews are).
I could go on and on. You keep saying "self-hating Jew." But we're referring to what turns out to be, in the final analysis, "race-hating Jews." Perhaps only a few like Israel supporter Dr. Lewis could fully appreciate this. By his actions, thinking it best for the Jews to return to slavery, Dathan was, in the final analysis, an anti-semitic Jew. It was because he loved his leftist self too much - not hated it - that he became an anti-semitic Jew.
* "Christ would be considered a self-hating Jew under this nonsense because he spoke out against the Pharisees." On the contrary, in the final analysis, the Pharisees were anti-Semitic Jews because they spoke out against the King of the Jews and the Lion of the Tribe of Judah. Are you starting to get the meaning? Anything intrinsically against God, anything for atheism -like internationalism today which for its own manipulations backs all the sects and cults and heresies and New Age nonsense and world religions - when orchestrated by a severe minority of leftist Jews, shows in the final analysis antisemitic Jews. You basically come from the premise that there are no absolutes; that leftist Jewry is just as good for Jews, or better, than other alternatives. But Begin firmly said just the opposite to Kissinger: "You are not the first Jew who thought he was doing right for our country, when he was not!"
The bottom line: Not anti-semitism but anti-godless internationalism. Those who happen to be Jews like Barney Frank who chose the latter will prove, as history shows time and again, to be anti-semitic Jews... just as the communist Jews let it fall on all Jews, for the actions of a small minority, in the Third Reich.
posted by: Steve Volk on Sun, 11/1 10:13 AM EST
RESPONSE TO LOLLY...
Anti-semitism refers to an attitude towards a race in general. The examples I gave above were Jews who had anti-semitic attitudes toward the race. Shickelgruber was even considered part Jewish. Let's examine what you wrote:
* "Once the department of justice's hate crimes unit is up and running, " Who do you think will be running this unit? I bet you $100 it will turn out to be anti-Semitic Jews. New Deal history is repeating itself more than ever. In Germany and to a lesser extent the US, it was the Marxist internationalist Jews which caused the public - who tends to be intellectually slothful - to go after all Jews, thinking all Jews internationalist. It wasn't the Christians who condoned this attitude. It was the will of a minority of Marxist Jewish internationalists - then and possibly now - conditioning the public to think this way.
* "The antichrists are using these words to control people." Dr. David Allen Lewis was a very Godly man and a brilliant scholar and was in no way an antichrist, standing up for Israel in Senate committees. A museum in Jerusalem is a memorial to him. He saw the antisemitic Jewish problem very easily from a Biblical base. Look at Jabotinsky, for example. He died in the 1940s but the leftist Jews wouldn't even let his body be buried there till 1964. They were anti-Semitic Jews.
* "Leaders of the Israeli peace movement and Haaretz and Jerusalem Post journalists, can expect to be indicted for anti-Semitic hate crimes in U.S. courts." You've gotten off track. Under Obama's gun control laws, scripted by leftist Chicago buddy Rahm Emanuel, Jews like Rabbi Rambo and Aaron Zehlman will be "guilty of hate crimes" if they defend themselves against activists in the growing Moslem population or illegal immigrants who threaten them. Do you think 2 million Muslims sent over here are going to assimilate in under 4 years? Their attitudes in Israel will be the same when Rahm Emanuel brings them here (and this is being an anti-semitic Jew, bringing two million Muslims or more from the Middle East, to the USA where millions of Jews are).
I could go on and on. You keep saying "self-hating Jew." But we're referring to what turns out to be, in the final analysis, "race-hating Jews." Perhaps only a few like Israel supporter Dr. Lewis could fully appreciate this. By his actions, thinking it best for the Jews to return to slavery, Dathan was, in the final analysis, an anti-semitic Jew. It was because he loved his leftist self too much - not hated it - that he became an anti-semitic Jew. The real issue is not "self-hating Jews" as you keep saying, but leftists self-loving and therefore historically-proven race-hating Jews, as the average person tends to identify the race with the well-publicized leftist minority.
* "Christ would be considered a self-hating Jew under this nonsense because he spoke out against the Pharisees." On the contrary, in the final analysis, the Pharisees were anti-Semitic Jews because they spoke out against the King of the Jews and the Lion of the Tribe of Judah. Are you starting to get the meaning? Anything intrinsically against God, anything for atheism -like internationalism today which for its own manipulations backs all the sects and cults and heresies and New Age nonsense and world religions - when orchestrated by a severe minority of leftist Jews, shows in the final analysis antisemitic Jews. You basically come from the premise that there are no absolutes; that leftist Jewry is just as good for Jews, or better, than other alternatives. But Begin firmly said just the opposite to Kissinger: "You are not the first Jew who thought he was doing right for our country, when he was not!"
I'm just watching a program here on needy Russian Jews from IFCJ.com. I see the extreme poverty of Russian Jews and I have no problem sending them something, because Christ was Jewish and they are His Chosen people. But when I look at the self-loving billionaires like Barney Frank who could eradicate the entire problem of extreme poverty for Jews in Russia and Siberia - and do nothing - I have to conclude such are self-loving and race hating and are therefore, anti-Semitic Jews. Again, I didn't coin the term.
Anti-semitism refers to an attitude towards a race in general. The examples I gave above were Jews who had anti-semitic attitudes toward the race. Shickelgruber was even considered part Jewish. Let's examine what you wrote:
* "Once the department of justice's hate crimes unit is up and running, " Who do you think will be running this unit? I bet you $100 it will turn out to be anti-Semitic Jews. New Deal history is repeating itself more than ever. In Germany and to a lesser extent the US, it was the Marxist internationalist Jews which caused the public - who tends to be intellectually slothful - to go after all Jews, thinking all Jews internationalist. It wasn't the Christians who condoned this attitude. It was the will of a minority of Marxist Jewish internationalists - then and possibly now - conditioning the public to think this way.
* "The antichrists are using these words to control people." Dr. David Allen Lewis was a very Godly man and a brilliant scholar and was in no way an antichrist, standing up for Israel in Senate committees. A museum in Jerusalem is a memorial to him. He saw the antisemitic Jewish problem very easily from a Biblical base. Look at Jabotinsky, for example. He died in the 1940s but the leftist Jews wouldn't even let his body be buried there till 1964. They were anti-Semitic Jews.
* "Leaders of the Israeli peace movement and Haaretz and Jerusalem Post journalists, can expect to be indicted for anti-Semitic hate crimes in U.S. courts." You've gotten off track. Under Obama's gun control laws, scripted by leftist Chicago buddy Rahm Emanuel, Jews like Rabbi Rambo and Aaron Zehlman will be "guilty of hate crimes" if they defend themselves against activists in the growing Moslem population or illegal immigrants who threaten them. Do you think 2 million Muslims sent over here are going to assimilate in under 4 years? Their attitudes in Israel will be the same when Rahm Emanuel brings them here (and this is being an anti-semitic Jew, bringing two million Muslims or more from the Middle East, to the USA where millions of Jews are).
I could go on and on. You keep saying "self-hating Jew." But we're referring to what turns out to be, in the final analysis, "race-hating Jews." Perhaps only a few like Israel supporter Dr. Lewis could fully appreciate this. By his actions, thinking it best for the Jews to return to slavery, Dathan was, in the final analysis, an anti-semitic Jew. It was because he loved his leftist self too much - not hated it - that he became an anti-semitic Jew. The real issue is not "self-hating Jews" as you keep saying, but leftists self-loving and therefore historically-proven race-hating Jews, as the average person tends to identify the race with the well-publicized leftist minority.
* "Christ would be considered a self-hating Jew under this nonsense because he spoke out against the Pharisees." On the contrary, in the final analysis, the Pharisees were anti-Semitic Jews because they spoke out against the King of the Jews and the Lion of the Tribe of Judah. Are you starting to get the meaning? Anything intrinsically against God, anything for atheism -like internationalism today which for its own manipulations backs all the sects and cults and heresies and New Age nonsense and world religions - when orchestrated by a severe minority of leftist Jews, shows in the final analysis antisemitic Jews. You basically come from the premise that there are no absolutes; that leftist Jewry is just as good for Jews, or better, than other alternatives. But Begin firmly said just the opposite to Kissinger: "You are not the first Jew who thought he was doing right for our country, when he was not!"
I'm just watching a program here on needy Russian Jews from IFCJ.com. I see the extreme poverty of Russian Jews and I have no problem sending them something, because Christ was Jewish and they are His Chosen people. But when I look at the self-loving billionaires like Barney Frank who could eradicate the entire problem of extreme poverty for Jews in Russia and Siberia - and do nothing - I have to conclude such are self-loving and race hating and are therefore, anti-Semitic Jews. Again, I didn't coin the term.
posted by: Steve Volk on Sun, 11/1 11:57 AM EST
In communist Russia, one of the first laws that was passed was to make anti-semetic comments or actions illigal. So the majority Christians were unable to say or do anything against their new leaders. If you get hold of Trotsky's book , "Stalin", you will find within a reproduction of a postcard widely circulated in Russia following the Bolshevik Revolution. It is entitled, "Leaders of the proletarian Revolution" (1917). The postcard pictures, Lenin, Trotsky, Zinoviev, Lunacharsky, Kamenev,and Sverdlov. Four of these are Jews, a fifth Lenin was married to a Jewess and he and Lunacharsky were gentiles. The Jews might be small in population but they are the most intelligent and the most worldly wise. Before the revolution there was a desperate food shortage in St Petersburg. Bread lines were growing day by day. There was idleness of the working population due to factory shutdowns. The tsarist government brought large numbers of Cossack troops into the city. Police mounted strategic machine guns thruout the city. The reds started agitating and organizing demonstrations. A few red flags went up. The mobs turned their fury on the police. In the police stations the police were then slaughtered, the prisons were emptied. Rioting continued. The Tsar and his family were arrested. A provisional government then was set up of 90% non-Jews over Russia and the Petersburg Soviet government over St Petersburg. The Tsar previously, had sent some 90,000, mostly Jews into exile for being revolutionaries. These the Provional government allowed to come back. Eventually a Congress of Soviets was convened, with the Bosheviks in clear majority. The Jew, Kamenev, was elected its first President. Within a few days, the Jew, Sverdlov, succeeded Kamenev, and thus became the second Jewish president of the "Soviet Republic". Soon the returning exiled Jews would exercise the power of life and death over 150 million Christian Russians. Soon every factory, every government bureau, every school district, and every army unit would function under the eye of a Jewish Commissar. Tens of thousands of Christians were butchered like cattle in a slaughterhouse. Soon every church and cathedral would be gutted, and every priest and preacher would become a criminal in his own community. The shop owners, landowners, every merchant and professional person and their families were arrested at night and taken and executed. Loud truck motors were kept going to hide the shootings and screams. With the leader class gone, everyone else cooperated. The United States citizens including non-communist US Jews are in grave danger of this happening to them. According to what you were saying Steve, both sides of the Jews, could point at each other and say the other is an antisemite Jew. A Christian Jew would say a non-Christian Jew is an anti-semite Jew and vise versa. See the problem Steve? That is why it is best to drop Dr. Lewis's ideas on anti-semitism. The word anti-semite is not even in the Bible. In the United States though we do not agree with certain ideas, we allow people to have free speech, that is freedom.
To Lolly
You wrote, "According to what you were saying Steve, both sides of the Jews, could point at each other and say the other is an antisemite Jew." Yes, but one would be doing it from a Biblical base, while the other does it from an atheist Marxist internationalist base.
This "antisemitic Jew" terms is a powerful concept. 2 millions Jews were left to wander in the wilderness 40 years, because of the rebellion of 5,000. Why in God's Sovereignty the majority are judged for the sins of a small minority, is something I don't have enoough background on... but it appears continuous throughout world history, at least implying the Jewish community is responsible - because it always ends up paying the penalty - for the actions of a minority who get out of hand.
In communist Russia in the 1920s, 60 million Christians (incl 85,000 medical doctors) were bloodily massacred. When do we give that Holocaust equal time? The "90% non-Jews over Russia" is a total fiction and a criminal revision of history. Would you like their names?
You wrote, "According to what you were saying Steve, both sides of the Jews, could point at each other and say the other is an antisemite Jew." Yes, but one would be doing it from a Biblical base, while the other does it from an atheist Marxist internationalist base.
This "antisemitic Jew" terms is a powerful concept. 2 millions Jews were left to wander in the wilderness 40 years, because of the rebellion of 5,000. Why in God's Sovereignty the majority are judged for the sins of a small minority, is something I don't have enoough background on... but it appears continuous throughout world history, at least implying the Jewish community is responsible - because it always ends up paying the penalty - for the actions of a minority who get out of hand.
In communist Russia in the 1920s, 60 million Christians (incl 85,000 medical doctors) were bloodily massacred. When do we give that Holocaust equal time? The "90% non-Jews over Russia" is a total fiction and a criminal revision of history. Would you like their names?
posted by: Steve Volk on Mon, 11/2 04:06 PM EST
RESPONSE TO LOLLY
Persons prominent in Bolshevik Revolution in 1917 documented by Victor E. Marsden, London Morning Post correspondent in Russia at the time of the Bolshevik Revolution in 1917. Marsden compiled a list of 545 of the chief Bolshevik officials in the early days. Of these, 454 were Jews, and only 12 genuine Russians (not 90% gentiles as Lolly's revisionist historians would mislead her to believe). Later, the Morning Post published in 1920 the book, The Cause of World Unrest, giving the following list of the principal Bolshevik officials (not religious Jews but Barney Frank forebear apostate antisemitic Jews):
Assumed Name Real Name Race
1. Lenin .............Oulianov Russian
2. Trotsky .............Bronstein Jew
3. Steklov .............Nachamkess Jew
4. Martov .............Tsederbaum Jew
5. Zinoviev ..............Apfelbaum Jew
6. Goussiev ..............Drapkin....Jew
7. Kamenev ......Rosenfeld Jew
8. Souhanov ......Ghimmer German
9. Sagersky ... Krachmann Jew
10. Bogdanov ......Silverstein Jew
11. Gorev ......Goldman Jew
12. Ouritzky ......Radomislsky Jew
13. Volodarsky ......Kohen .Jew
14. Sverdlov ....Sverdlov (?) Jew
15. Kamkov ......Katz .............Jew
16. Ganetzky … Furstenberg .Jew
17. Dann ......Gourevitch .Jew
18. Meshkovsky Goldberg Jew
19. Parvus . .Helphandt Jew
20. Riazanov ...Goldenbach ..Jew
21. Martinov ........ Zimbar Jew
22. Tchernomorsky Tchernomordik Jew
23. Piatnitzky .....Levin Jew
24. Abramovitch .... Rein Jew
25. Solntzev ........Bleichman Jew
26. Zverzditch Fonstein Jew
27. Radek ...Sobelson Jew
28. Iitvinov, (Alias Finkenstein) .... Wallack Jew
29. Loamy .......Lounatcharsky Russian
30. Koioal i ...Kolontai ..Russian
31. Peters ...............Peters ..Lett
32. Maklakovsky ....Rosenbloom. ..Jew
33. Lapinsky Levenson. . . ..Jew
34. Vobrov Natansson ..............Jew
35. Ortodoks .........Akselrode Jew
36. Garin Gerfeldt Jew
37. Glazounov Schulze Jew
38. Lebedieva Simson Jewess
39. Joffe ..Joffe .....Jew
40. Kamensky ....Hoffman Jew
41. Naout Ginzbur Jew
42. Zagorsky Krachmalink Jew
43. Izgoev Goldman Jew
44. Vladimirov .....Feldman Jew
45. Bounskov ....Foundamentzky Jew
46. Manouilsky .....Manouilsky Jew
47. Larin .................Lourie Jew
48. Krassin ......Krassin Russian
49. Tchicherin .....Tchicherin .....Russian
50. Goukovsky ......Goukovsky Russian
Persons prominent in Bolshevik Revolution in 1917 documented by Victor E. Marsden, London Morning Post correspondent in Russia at the time of the Bolshevik Revolution in 1917. Marsden compiled a list of 545 of the chief Bolshevik officials in the early days. Of these, 454 were Jews, and only 12 genuine Russians (not 90% gentiles as Lolly's revisionist historians would mislead her to believe). Later, the Morning Post published in 1920 the book, The Cause of World Unrest, giving the following list of the principal Bolshevik officials (not religious Jews but Barney Frank forebear apostate antisemitic Jews):
Assumed Name Real Name Race
1. Lenin .............Oulianov Russian
2. Trotsky .............Bronstein Jew
3. Steklov .............Nachamkess Jew
4. Martov .............Tsederbaum Jew
5. Zinoviev ..............Apfelbaum Jew
6. Goussiev ..............Drapkin....Jew
7. Kamenev ......Rosenfeld Jew
8. Souhanov ......Ghimmer German
9. Sagersky ... Krachmann Jew
10. Bogdanov ......Silverstein Jew
11. Gorev ......Goldman Jew
12. Ouritzky ......Radomislsky Jew
13. Volodarsky ......Kohen .Jew
14. Sverdlov ....Sverdlov (?) Jew
15. Kamkov ......Katz .............Jew
16. Ganetzky … Furstenberg .Jew
17. Dann ......Gourevitch .Jew
18. Meshkovsky Goldberg Jew
19. Parvus . .Helphandt Jew
20. Riazanov ...Goldenbach ..Jew
21. Martinov ........ Zimbar Jew
22. Tchernomorsky Tchernomordik Jew
23. Piatnitzky .....Levin Jew
24. Abramovitch .... Rein Jew
25. Solntzev ........Bleichman Jew
26. Zverzditch Fonstein Jew
27. Radek ...Sobelson Jew
28. Iitvinov, (Alias Finkenstein) .... Wallack Jew
29. Loamy .......Lounatcharsky Russian
30. Koioal i ...Kolontai ..Russian
31. Peters ...............Peters ..Lett
32. Maklakovsky ....Rosenbloom. ..Jew
33. Lapinsky Levenson. . . ..Jew
34. Vobrov Natansson ..............Jew
35. Ortodoks .........Akselrode Jew
36. Garin Gerfeldt Jew
37. Glazounov Schulze Jew
38. Lebedieva Simson Jewess
39. Joffe ..Joffe .....Jew
40. Kamensky ....Hoffman Jew
41. Naout Ginzbur Jew
42. Zagorsky Krachmalink Jew
43. Izgoev Goldman Jew
44. Vladimirov .....Feldman Jew
45. Bounskov ....Foundamentzky Jew
46. Manouilsky .....Manouilsky Jew
47. Larin .................Lourie Jew
48. Krassin ......Krassin Russian
49. Tchicherin .....Tchicherin .....Russian
50. Goukovsky ......Goukovsky Russian
posted by: Steve Volk on Mon, 11/2 07:14 PM EST
From what I read, Germany back then which was next door to Russia,the Germans hearing what was transpiring in Russia, became frightened and that led to Hitler taking over. Then after the terrible Holocaust in Germany, the world decided to protect the Jews 100%. So it swung from one way to another.
WHAT WOULD YOU DO?
Lolly, I'm not defending Hitler. The left wing and right wing of the Marxist bird of prey were both wrong and used the same methods. But look who started it, as you pointed out. Your figures were that 150 million gentiles were killed, mine were 65 million. Either way, Hitler is aware of this. Olga Chekhova, niece of the poet Chekhov, is a close friend of Hitler's. Hitler is aware of the 150 million gentiles murdered; he also knows in 1933 his party has 2 million, while the communist internationalists have 5 million members in Germany. He's seen what they're capable of in Russia with 150 million murders. Now, how would you respond? As Charles Coughlin - who was never antisemitic but vehemently anti-communist and anti-internationalist - pointed out, Nazism was a defense against communism. This is why the American conservative patriots said "No Foreign Entanglements," because they wanted the two to fight it out without sacrificing our boys.
If you were aware of the statistics then, as you've posted here, with Germany right next door, what would you have done?
Lolly, I'm not defending Hitler. The left wing and right wing of the Marxist bird of prey were both wrong and used the same methods. But look who started it, as you pointed out. Your figures were that 150 million gentiles were killed, mine were 65 million. Either way, Hitler is aware of this. Olga Chekhova, niece of the poet Chekhov, is a close friend of Hitler's. Hitler is aware of the 150 million gentiles murdered; he also knows in 1933 his party has 2 million, while the communist internationalists have 5 million members in Germany. He's seen what they're capable of in Russia with 150 million murders. Now, how would you respond? As Charles Coughlin - who was never antisemitic but vehemently anti-communist and anti-internationalist - pointed out, Nazism was a defense against communism. This is why the American conservative patriots said "No Foreign Entanglements," because they wanted the two to fight it out without sacrificing our boys.
If you were aware of the statistics then, as you've posted here, with Germany right next door, what would you have done?
posted by: Steve Volk on Wed, 11/4 10:14 AM EST
O, I was not saying at all that you were defending Hitler, Steve. Your facts were interesting. Also, sorry, I was not saying 150 million died under communism. I more agree with the 65 million figure. Under Mao,50 million Chinese were killed. You are right these holocausts are never mentioned. They are taboo. In one Christian Church, I asked us to remember in prayer the 65 million that died under communism in Russia and the 50 million Chinese in China, and I got repremanded by the Pastor!! He thought I made it up!!! This was in San Francisco.
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